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you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with independent voters and/or undecided voters in your state of ohio? >> i don't think so. i think people realize that governor romney is still wrong on medicare and still wrong on trade and still wrong on jobs and still wrong on the middle class. i think that's increasingly clear. again it goes back to which path do you go. do you want to go back to the trickle down economics you give tax cuts to the rich and hope it helps the middle class or do you focus on the middle class and that's trait enforcement, it's i don't think training at community colleges like columbus state and sinclair. i
you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with...
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that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation and say, it's my way or the highway, i don't get a lot done. what i do is the same way that tip o'neal and ronald reagan worked together some years ago. when ronald reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. >> so it's about principles, not actual hard plans. in a million years did you ever think that a victory could come out of this debate base odd vagueness? i ask that because knowing in we knew all of the weapons both could quite honestly use and weapons the moderator would have available to press both
that's what romney did last night. every time obama said you have a $5 trillion tax cut, he said no i don't. the truth is we don't know what it is. as he's running for president, i think it's information that we're frankly entitled to. >> let me play another clip. the president criticized romney for a lack of specifics in the tax plan and wall street reform and health care. that's how that went down. >> my experience as a governor is if i come in and lay down a piece of legislation...
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mitt romney sold something last night that can't be true. all of the independent analysis says -- and i take issue with some of your research there. as voters start to dig more into this pitch they're going to realize it's actually too good to be true. >> doug, there's a point to that. mitt romney has said he doesn't want to, for example, raise the rates on capital gains or dividends but analysis, i believe including your own, although i'm not sure it's your own, did say that those rates would have to go up on the wealthy, too, to make this close to working. >> that wasn't my analysis. the point raised by you and others is that there are now plans that conservatives have put together which meet the specifications of mr. romney and don't raise taxes on the middle class. there are plans that the democrats have put together that do raise tax on the middle class. that says this can be done and the issue is what will be done. on that i would say i don't think the president is in a strong position of pointing fingers. he has been saying he wants t
mitt romney sold something last night that can't be true. all of the independent analysis says -- and i take issue with some of your research there. as voters start to dig more into this pitch they're going to realize it's actually too good to be true. >> doug, there's a point to that. mitt romney has said he doesn't want to, for example, raise the rates on capital gains or dividends but analysis, i believe including your own, although i'm not sure it's your own, did say that those rates...
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romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean what he said about half the energy companies supported by the obama administration going bankrupt. he didn't actually mean that. sort of rolled over from democratic and liberal bewilderment last night that mr. romney was abandoning his main economic plan that he was running on, his $5 trillion tax cut plan, his big trickle-down plan, to be rolled over from democrats being bewildered about that to the beltway press and mainstream pundits i think now having a hard time deciding whether they are supposed to call that a lie or whether they're supposed to ju
romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean what...
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the white house. >> reporter: a new mood after many saw a new mitt romney last night. >> let's get back to medicare. the president said that the government can provide the service at lower cost, and without a profit. >> reporter: in control, assertive. presidential. while barack obama kept his eyes and his energy low. >> it's very rare that impressionistically stylistically there's such a clear triumph of one side over the other. >> reporter: at a rally in denver the president admitted he got surprised. >> when i got onto the stage, i met this very spirited fellow who claimed to be mitt romney. >> reporter: later today at a huge rally in wisconsin, the president charged romney changed what he said on spending and taxes. >> he may do a tap dance and two-step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. >> reporter: some felt mr. obama owed them a better debate. >> he looked like he was tired, drained. >> i think he didn't have the practice. >> you more worried obama might lose now? >> i don't know, not really. >> reporter: obama strategists hint the boss
the white house. >> reporter: a new mood after many saw a new mitt romney last night. >> let's get back to medicare. the president said that the government can provide the service at lower cost, and without a profit. >> reporter: in control, assertive. presidential. while barack obama kept his eyes and his energy low. >> it's very rare that impressionistically stylistically there's such a clear triumph of one side over the other. >> reporter: at a rally in denver...
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governor mitt romney is picking up where he left off in last night's debate. a debate most americans say he won, according to the polls. the governor back on the campaign trail tonight and he is taking aim at president obama again. >> i saw the president's vision as trickle down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. i see, instead, a prosperity that comes through freedom. >> the president is back on the trail as well. and he is a lot more fired up than he was last night. ed henry is live for us in denver. ed, he seemed to immediately go on offense today. >> that's right. trace. immediately going on the attack, in fact, and that sort of undermines the argument from some of the president's top advisors that he did just fine in this debate. he seemed to realize he has got some work to do and immediately rolled up the sleeves, started hitting mitt romney and got some comfort by the way in these big rallies. one in denver he got 12,000 people here. in madison, wisconsin, 30,000 people. huge crowd. better reception than he he did last night.
governor mitt romney is picking up where he left off in last night's debate. a debate most americans say he won, according to the polls. the governor back on the campaign trail tonight and he is taking aim at president obama again. >> i saw the president's vision as trickle down government, and i don't think that's what america believes in. i see, instead, a prosperity that comes through freedom. >> the president is back on the trail as well. and he is a lot more fired up than he...
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mitt romney countered barack obama last night. came back at the president in a respectful way and the president didn't have answers. it was a win on substance last night. martha: you are obviously a unique political player and observer of this process. you are the co-chair of president obama's campaign back in 2008. what brought you to the place you are now as a supporter and surrogate for mitt romney just four years later? >> i'm like about 7 million americans who voted for the president who don't plan to do so again. i'm like many americans who were democrat at one point who moved away from the democratic party. the democratic party ideas. part of it is policy. part of it is ideology and part of it is results. last night was a debate about result. what was telling to me. at no point did president obama lay out a case for what a second term is going to look like. i heard president obama say he was going to do one thing in his second term. he's going to raise some taxes in the second term that he didn't get around to raising in th
mitt romney countered barack obama last night. came back at the president in a respectful way and the president didn't have answers. it was a win on substance last night. martha: you are obviously a unique political player and observer of this process. you are the co-chair of president obama's campaign back in 2008. what brought you to the place you are now as a supporter and surrogate for mitt romney just four years later? >> i'm like about 7 million americans who voted for the president...
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mitt romney also talked about the deficit last night. and he claims that even with his tax cut, he will not add to the defici deficit. >> my number one principle is there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. that's part one. so there's no economist that can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. >> the problem in both of these claims is a lack of specifics. what the president is assuming, the reason we said false on his claim, he basically is assuming if he just did a tax cut and nothing else, then it would include this giant amount of tax breaks for people out there. but that's what mr. romney is saying he won't do. he's saying he has all these specifics in terms of cutting deductions, finding ways of closing loopholes so that people would pay more and there wouldn't be this giant tax cut but he wouldn't say what that would be. this lack of
mitt romney also talked about the deficit last night. and he claims that even with his tax cut, he will not add to the defici deficit. >> my number one principle is there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. i won't put in place a tax cut that adds to the deficit. that's part one. so there's no economist that can say mitt romney's tax plan adds $5 trillion if i say i will not add to the deficit with my tax plan. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the...
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and got to lot let biden undercut what romney did on wednesday night. >> geraldo: i read something that you wrote that suggested that romney won by being moral not just matter of fact about the issues of the economy for example. what did you mean? >> there was a key moment about 25 minutes in. they had the exchange on taxes for the first 20-25 minutes and romney did well. i think it was still in question who was really going to win the debate and then jim lehrer said let's turn to the second session on the debt. the first thing he said was the issue of the debt and deficit is not just an issue of money it is an issue of morality. immoral to leave the debt to our children and grandchildren and i thought it was a strong statement and elevated the romney campaign above a kind of we can do a little better for your pocketbook next week than president obama can and put it in a bigger concept and elevated the race into who is the more are responsible steward of this country's finances and well being for the next generation. i thought it was a very important moment for mitt romney. >> geraldo:
and got to lot let biden undercut what romney did on wednesday night. >> geraldo: i read something that you wrote that suggested that romney won by being moral not just matter of fact about the issues of the economy for example. what did you mean? >> there was a key moment about 25 minutes in. they had the exchange on taxes for the first 20-25 minutes and romney did well. i think it was still in question who was really going to win the debate and then jim lehrer said let's turn to...
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it seemed like all the liberal media, last night was mitt romney's night. one of the governor's biggest supporters predicted this. a performance even the mainstream media cannot tonight. now they are picking it apart. i was watching a couple of your appearances. i am a huge fan. and now they are saying, it was jim lehrer who did such horrible job. he let the governor run away with it. on and on and on. >> the tyndale is back in the leg. that is the most sickening expression. >> this morning and this afternoon, there are packing it with people who are trying to explain that this was just a one bad night and the president is still cecilia's he was before. neil: the thin air in denver, a mile high. >> blaming it on altitude. the president revealed last night why the country has over 8 percent unemployment. 23 million people unemployed and underemployed. it is because he is incompetent and incoherent and has not functioned in the white house. it was, i think, pretty clear that he has been propped up for four years by a mainstream media that has tried to make hi
it seemed like all the liberal media, last night was mitt romney's night. one of the governor's biggest supporters predicted this. a performance even the mainstream media cannot tonight. now they are picking it apart. i was watching a couple of your appearances. i am a huge fan. and now they are saying, it was jim lehrer who did such horrible job. he let the governor run away with it. on and on and on. >> the tyndale is back in the leg. that is the most sickening expression. >> this...
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and there was more. >> i believe that on the night of the debate, mitt romney and barack obama switched bodies. perhaps. and this is just a theory, perhaps they were exchanging pleasantries backstage and mitt romney said, man, it's not easy raising five boys and barack said you should try raising two girls and they laughed laughed same time they said, what i'd like to switch places and just like that. >> funny stuff, we love a good joke, of course. mitt romney, well, he tried to get away with the actual debate. it wasn't too funny. and i said it would cause him problems. >> no doubt, maitt romney was a his best tonight but it's not good enough. when you take what he said tonight and compare it to his proposals, to what he has said, to what he's represented, to the ryan plan, it does not match what he said tonight. so how are we going to be impressed with someone that made a very passionate and a very articulate series of lies tonight? there's been so much focus on the president's debate performance but i continue to believe that governor romney did serious damage to his candidacy that n
and there was more. >> i believe that on the night of the debate, mitt romney and barack obama switched bodies. perhaps. and this is just a theory, perhaps they were exchanging pleasantries backstage and mitt romney said, man, it's not easy raising five boys and barack said you should try raising two girls and they laughed laughed same time they said, what i'd like to switch places and just like that. >> funny stuff, we love a good joke, of course. mitt romney, well, he tried to get...
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last night, when top supporters and donors were at romney's hotel for dinner, rob portman came by. as one told us, portman played a better president obama than the president did himself. >> back over to chuck todd, chuck, same question to you having seen that bizarre development of people in the crowd at an obama rally wondering what was going on last night. >> yeah, that was unbelievable. it's safe to say the tswagger ad overconfidence is gone and i would call it anxiety for them today. this is the way the obama campaign tried to react. number one, they put out the first tv ad calling mitt romney dishonest. david plouffe, the senior strategist, used the word dishonest or not being honest, nearly a dozen times when briefing reporters this afternoon. so they're trying to put the focus on mitt romney and saying hey, he gave a great performance, but wasn't exactly honest. it was rally therapy out here though, brian. he did have 30,000 people show up in madison. >> chuck todd, peter alexander wrapping it up for us tonight. thanks. >>> we have two big and still developing stories tonigh
last night, when top supporters and donors were at romney's hotel for dinner, rob portman came by. as one told us, portman played a better president obama than the president did himself. >> back over to chuck todd, chuck, same question to you having seen that bizarre development of people in the crowd at an obama rally wondering what was going on last night. >> yeah, that was unbelievable. it's safe to say the tswagger ad overconfidence is gone and i would call it anxiety for them...
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called mitt romney out for what he did last night. not just about his $5 trillion tax cut but a number of other things. and, you know, we'll continue doing that. as i was listening to your piece coming into me, and you talked about our ad. we went on the air today. we're going to continue doing it pointing out all the things mitt romney said last night that are basically not true. it's almost as if he forgot what the last six years of running for president meant. >> yeah. so are you -- i mean, there was a multi -- there were millions of people watching last night. over 60 million people watching. it was the biggest watch debate since 1980. are you worried people will believe mitt romney's lies if they're not countered in debates? >> ed, it's not as if these people are just tuning in right now. you know, this race has been going on for some time. they -- you know, they know that mitt romney has been campaigning for the last two years on a $5 trillion tax cut. that's the only piece of his economic policy. that's what he points to when h
called mitt romney out for what he did last night. not just about his $5 trillion tax cut but a number of other things. and, you know, we'll continue doing that. as i was listening to your piece coming into me, and you talked about our ad. we went on the air today. we're going to continue doing it pointing out all the things mitt romney said last night that are basically not true. it's almost as if he forgot what the last six years of running for president meant. >> yeah. so are you -- i...
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governor romney didn't attack the president the entire night. governor romney stayed on his message whoever stays on message will be viewed as the victor. i'm sure that vice president biden has been coached to get back on message and go after paul ryan. how much he will do that we'll see. i'm sure that congressman ryan has been preparing on the policy side and preparing mentally for this. this is the first time he will have been on this stage. i think both men will be very prepared. >> and. >> chris: briefly looking ahead to the next presidential debate on october 16 nine days from now you have to know that obama will be much more aggressive to show that was just a bad night. if you are his coach briefly what do you tell obama to do and if you of romney's coach how do you tell him to prepare for a much more aggressive president? >> if you are the president, you have got to get on offense. you have to use the things that have been successful to this point for them in the campaign. it was shocking that he didn't go into the 47% remark or bain capi
governor romney didn't attack the president the entire night. governor romney stayed on his message whoever stays on message will be viewed as the victor. i'm sure that vice president biden has been coached to get back on message and go after paul ryan. how much he will do that we'll see. i'm sure that congressman ryan has been preparing on the policy side and preparing mentally for this. this is the first time he will have been on this stage. i think both men will be very prepared. >>...
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guess who uttered 500 more words than the president last night? mitt romney. we did the check. 7,890 words. obama, 7,354. it goes to the ideas and explains he was listless and a little bit, shall we say, he pondered a long time. >> we've seen him ponder a lot in the speeches. it was business consultant versus college professor. sort of harvard versus harvard. no question harvard business school versus harvard law school. no question that president obama showed his campaign has been doing the work for him and mitt romney has been doing the work for his campaign. we'll see what happens going forward. pout a question, the obama supporters were on their heels last night. were disappointed. wondering, where was this guy who they've been seeing in the tv commercials going so hard at mitt romney? he was clearly trying to be too presidential and not going after romney. >> we can't escape the fact. four of the last five incumbent presidents had lost the first debate. it's unbelievable. you have to say there is something to this. >> they're not used to being challenged
guess who uttered 500 more words than the president last night? mitt romney. we did the check. 7,890 words. obama, 7,354. it goes to the ideas and explains he was listless and a little bit, shall we say, he pondered a long time. >> we've seen him ponder a lot in the speeches. it was business consultant versus college professor. sort of harvard versus harvard. no question harvard business school versus harvard law school. no question that president obama showed his campaign has been doing...
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. >> the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. >> mitt romney was greeted with thunderous applause this morning. at a speech to conservatives. >> last night, i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see very different visions for the county >> the morning after, even supporters said the president seemed tentative, defensive, frequently looking down at his notes perhaps like some of his predecessors in debate, ford, carter, bush and bush. almost too accustomed to the oval office. not used to being challenged. most surprising, the president did not use some of his most potent attack lines. mitt romney's comments to we will thee contributors that 47% of the country don't pay federal income taxes or are dependent on the federal government. or romney's position on women's health issues. the president's surrogates tried to shift the subject to romney. >> romney says he's going to cut loopholes, but won't name them. romney said i'm going to place obamacare but won
. >> the man on stage last night, he does not want to be held accountable for the real mitt romney's decisions and what he's been saying for the last year. >> mitt romney was greeted with thunderous applause this morning. at a speech to conservatives. >> last night, i thought was a great opportunity for the american people to see very different visions for the county >> the morning after, even supporters said the president seemed tentative, defensive, frequently looking...
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>> his line was who was mitt romney last night. i don't recognize that mitt romney. but they also didn't recognize that barack obama. >> mitt romney had to be aggressive with the president and also had to remain likable. ben is, in -- again, in looking at those polls -- gwen: a temperament issue. >> and they're in conflict. because when you're aggressive you may not be that attractive. and that was something the president was worried about. so in these insta polls, the cbs one, romney's numbers do you care about a person like me was 40 -- 30 before the debate. after the debate it was in the 60's. so he made up ground with undecided voters on this key question of do you care about me? there is this pool of obama 2008 voters disappointed with obama but not ready to hand the treens romney yet. if they start to think he cares about them from a performance like that and if he can match that with behavior over the next 30 days, that's a combination they think gets him to the white house. gwen: are they sitting in dark rooms this weekend crunching those numbers and trying t
>> his line was who was mitt romney last night. i don't recognize that mitt romney. but they also didn't recognize that barack obama. >> mitt romney had to be aggressive with the president and also had to remain likable. ben is, in -- again, in looking at those polls -- gwen: a temperament issue. >> and they're in conflict. because when you're aggressive you may not be that attractive. and that was something the president was worried about. so in these insta polls, the cbs...